from gsx1400 to b-king

After having a GSX1400, a very nice bike, for 4 yrs i stumbled upon an offer on a b-king that i just could not resist. Prior to buying a b-king a couple of weeks ago i could not afford it, but it went on sale at a huge discount so i traded my old (2006) gsx1400.

The gsx1400 is indeed a very good bike, with exellent pillion comfort, but in every other matter the b-king outperform.

A question i would like to ask is when it is due to wot without any harm for the engine. I have changed the oil and filter at app. 100 miles. I have certainly given it some runs way above the stipulated 5000rpms, but is nevertheless uncertain. The b-king actually begs me to nail it. Honestly.

Thanks for reading/Kurgan

Welcome Kurgan - I too crossed from the GSX1400 to the King, and what a buzz it has been!! The 1400 is way better for pillions but if you just want to ride, the King kills it. And I do agree, the King does beg a good nailing everytime I get on it.

welcome! lot's of good folks and info here!

BobK wrote:

Is that the Euro version of the Busa? I too had one and sold it to get the King and it was the best think I did. Way more comfortable and can be made almost as fast as the Busa which has better aerodynamics going for it. Anything over 120MPH and you better fit a wind screen!

No it isn't - it is what the B-King replaced, a big bore naked in the same class as both the XJR and the ZRX. Suzuki never imported them to the US.

That GSX is awesome!!!

Congrats!!

Welcome Kurgan.

ekms377 wrote:

That GSX is awesome!!!

I've come close to buying one a few times.
Not as aggresive as the King but the much better pillion seat / grab rail
and the larger fuel tank would make it a good bike to run as well as.
Not made now but a few clean tidy 2nd hand ones about and they were
only about the same price as a 1200 Bland-it.

Quite popular with the streetfighter / modded bike guys too......

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18976

I had a ZRX1200 last year and the BKing is a bit above the performance on that. I just like the look of the old school standards....and I like the GSX!

Hello Kurgan and Welcome.

My previous bike was also a GSX1400 and although the GSX is a great bike the B King is in a different league, I’m sure you will not regret the change.

ekms377 wrote:

I had a ZRX1200 last year.
I just like the look of the old school standards

Me too!

Always loved the green ZRX "Eddie Lawson rep" version.
Classic muscle bike looks, but I'd want the Busa/B-King
motor and running gear.

Mmmmm....... Kawabusa....

Kurgan wrote:

A question i would like to ask is when it is due to wot without any harm for the engine. I have changed the oil and filter at app. 100 miles. I have certainly given it some runs way above the stipulated 5000rpms, but is nevertheless uncertain. The b-king actually begs me to nail it. Honestly.

Thanks for reading/Kurgan

Congrats on the new bike!!! I love the 1400... too bad they never imported them to the US.

To your question...

There's basically two "generally accepted" schools of thought on breaking in an engine. And... they're exact opposites.

1) By the book. Baby it... don't break 5000rpm until 600 miles (or whatever it is) per the manual.

2) Ride it hard and/or do a dyno break in. (Hard Break In

Which one you choose is entirely up to you... OR, you could do something inbetween where you just ride it like you normally would (not "hard", not babied...).

Read enough, and you can find some pretty compelling evidence in support of either approach.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that the tolerances in motors today are so close that you really shouldn't have to worry too much about spinning them up just because the motor is new. If the tolerances change THAT much in the first few hundred miles, something is wrong.

That said, I went crazy on the oil changes early on. At 100, 300, 600, 1000, and 1500 miles, my bike got fresh dino oil. At the 100 mile change, the oil was filthy and full of metal flake... same at 300. 600 was pretty clean, and 1000 looked pretty well new. Any new motor is going to have some metal filings that shear off (especially in the transmission) in the first few hours of running. Again, my opinion, but you want to get that crap out of there as quickly as is possible, hence all the oil changes.

10,000 miles and the bike runs great. I change the oil every 2000-2500 miles and it's as clean as I could hope for, which, to me, says the motor seated in pretty well.

Congrats again... hope some of that babble helps you.

That said, I went crazy on the oil changes early on. At 100, 300, 600, 1000, and 1500 miles, my bike got fresh dino oil. At the 100 mile change, the oil was filthy and full of metal flake... same at 300. 600 was pretty clean, and 1000 looked pretty well new. Any new motor is going to have some metal filings that shear off (especially in the transmission) in the first few hours of running. Again, my opinion, but you want to get that crap out of there as quickly as is possible, hence all the oil changes.

10,000 miles and the bike runs great. I change the oil every 2000-2500 miles and it's as clean as I could hope for, which, to me, says the motor seated in pretty well.

Congrats again... hope some of that babble helps you.[/quote]

Thanks for the reply, it did help. When I buy a new bike, not very often, i am always hesitating wheter to ride hard or not. It seems to end somewhere in between during the break in. What concerns me is that the dealer changed my dino oil into fully synthetic, motul v300, at the first service, 700 miles. I guess that most of the breaking in has occured. I feels a bit akward to go home and change the oil i payed quite a bit for. The mechanic insisted on that oil. Hope its ok anyway. I runs like a dream. Could need some power on top though.

Tony Nitrous wrote:

Welcome Kurgan.
Quite popular with the streetfighter / modded bike guys too......

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18976

Good god.. even got a photo of my 14 in that site n all

the 14 and the B-king have some similarities .. owned a 1400 since 2002 and still love it .. the B-King is a real tool though.. but I do feel the need to cane to ass off it at almost every occasion .. whereas the 14 allowed you to just cruise when you wanted to...

Cruising on the B-King is like just waiting to GO.. rather than an end in itself

Synk

Can someone ship me one over here to the USA?